Wednesday, December 31, 2008

women pastors ( rotten tomatoes shield engaged)

I have always held with the viewpoint women should not be pastors but I never had to chew on it much until recently. sigh... Well I first want to say that woman COULD be Pastors. Just like a compact car can probably carry at least 8 people, But SHOULD they? Especially when there is a perfectly fine van that is ready to be used. Of course not! In these times of equality and political correctness many churches have bowed to the social climes and given in. But what does the bible say and what are certain arguments for this?

First what the bible says:

1st Timothy:
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

I think it is clear they are talking about a man here.

and 1 Timothy 3:

1This is a true saying, if a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work.

2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;

Sounds like above is referring to a man as well. As far as I know husband means man- Maybe not in certain circles but biblically YES.

and again in Titus:

5For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

6If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

It doesn't say anything about women being overseers. Does it?Did they mean man and woman when they said man? Nope because they address women as well

11Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderers, sober, faithful in all things.

So now common arguments used when women are allowed as pastors?

But how about Galatians? ( gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.)

If you read the whole chapter in context you will see that they are talking about the Law. Please don't take the bible out of context and warp it to your views!

What about Priscilla and Deborah?

I will answer that with an excerpt from THIS article.

"Some women minister have stated that they won’t argue what the words of I Corinthians 14:34, 35 and I Timothy 2:11, 12 say, but that they will “…simply give you other words from the same bible that speak clearly about women’s work in the kingdom of God.” This ignores the fact that God does not contradict Himself. If He states in one passage that an elder must be a male and states in another that a women may not teach, then, in those passages that appear to teach something contrary — i.e., Deborah and Miriam — we must struggle with what is actually being taught. Deborah was described by some as “…a skilled warrior, prophetess, counselor and a judge of Israel.” How could this great woman of God not be a teacher of men in the things of God?” What they fail to understand the in the passage was that Deborah was indeed a prophetess and a judge of Israel. however, there is NO indication that she was a “skilled warrior” or a ”counselor”. In fact, it is clear from the passage that Barak was in charge of the army, not Deborah.

The case of Priscilla and Aquila is very instructive as to the relationship of women and men. Priscilla did, in fact, teach Apollo. It was not, however, in a worship context. It is important to recognize that in I Corinthians 14:34, 35, Paul is dealing with the issue in a worship context. The women were interrupting the worship to ask questions. Paul admonishes them to ask their husbands outside the worship context. I Timothy 2:11, 12 is also dealing with a worship issue (see verse 8)."

And this is one I hear often:

I was called!:

I will answer that one with an excerpt from a

What About Women Who Say They are Called By God to Be Pastors?

There are women pastors in the world who love their congregations and have stated that they are called by God to be pastors. Of course, I cannot agree with this considering the previous analysis of the biblical position. Instead, I believe they have usurped the position of men and gone against the norm of scriptural revelation. Additionally, those who state that they are called by God because of the great job they are doing and the gifting they have received are basing their theology upon experience and not scripture.
The issue is simple: are they submitting to the word of God or are they making the word of God submit to their desires?

* remember it is a sin to pick and choose what parts of God's Holy Word you want to follow.

So next time you are wondering, "Is it ok to let my family sit in and hear this female preach this one time?" You do know the Truth. And the answer is no.

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  1. Briana! you are so right on the women pastor thing! We will not even listen to them on TV. Well really, we do nto listen to any TV preachers other than when Billy Grham is on!

    I need to learn how to put pictures in my text like you are doing. I want to do a piece on canning pinto beans.

    Love ya girl!!! Kimi